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istatrol [2016/03/25 16:41] – [RADIATOR_RESPONSE_TIME] Traumflugistatrol [2016/03/26 15:21] – [Bugs] Traumflug
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 {{ :istatrol:istatrol_thermistor_readout.png?direct&300|Very coarsely measured readout of the developers thermistor.}} {{ :istatrol:istatrol_thermistor_readout.png?direct&300|Very coarsely measured readout of the developers thermistor.}}
  
-For the technical: ATtinys feature no Analog Digital Converter (ADC). But there is [[https://github.com/Traumflug/ISTAtrol/raw/master/data%20sheets/AVR400.pdf|Atmel Application Note AVR400]], outlining how to get analog readouts by using the Analog Comparator (ACO) anyways. Essentially, a capacitor is loaded starting at time zero, then the time measured (with 16-bit Timer 1) how long it takes to reach a constant comparison voltage. As the loading current goes through the thermistor, higher thermistor resistance ( = lower temperature) leads to a longer loading time and vice versa. This implementation is actually simpler than one using an ADC.+For the technical: ATtinys feature no Analog Digital Converter (ADC). But there is [[https://github.com/Traumflug/ISTAtrol/raw/master/data%20sheets/AVR400.pdf|Atmel Application Note AVR400]], outlining how to get analog readouts by using the Analog Comparator (ACO) anyways. Essentially, a capacitor is loaded starting at time zero, then the time this capacitor takes to reach the same voltage as a constant comparison voltage measured (with 16-bit Timer 1). As the capacitor loading current goes through the thermistor, higher thermistor resistance ( = lower temperature) leads to a longer loading time and vice versa. This implementation is actually simpler than one using an ADC.
  
 As one can see by the coarse measurements done, this is linear enough for our purposes. The recorded pretty hefty hysteresis isn't a property of the thermistor or the ISTAtrol, it's an artefact of the measurement procedure. As one can see by the coarse measurements done, this is linear enough for our purposes. The recorded pretty hefty hysteresis isn't a property of the thermistor or the ISTAtrol, it's an artefact of the measurement procedure.
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 This is a bit a tricker one. Moving the radiator valve usually doesn't lead to an immediate change in temperature on the sensor. There is some //dead time// in between. Checking temperature and/or moving the valve too often makes no sense within this dead time. This is a bit a tricker one. Moving the radiator valve usually doesn't lead to an immediate change in temperature on the sensor. There is some //dead time// in between. Checking temperature and/or moving the valve too often makes no sense within this dead time.
  
-To get an idea about this dead time, connect ISTAtrol, run [[#Controlling Terminal|terminal.py]], without mounting and connecting the valve actuator, yet. Adjust //terminal.py// to give readouts more often by changing ''time.sleep(60)'' to ''time.sleep(1)'' in the last line of //terminal.py// and RADIATOR_RESPONSE_TIME in main.c also to 1. Then open the valve with the former thermostat and watch when temperature starts to raise. This is the value which should be entered here. The developers radiator response can be seen in the picture. According to this, a value of 120 was choosen and found to be choosen well+To get an idea about this dead time, connect ISTAtrol, run [[#Controlling Terminal|terminal.py]], without mounting and connecting the valve actuator, yet. Adjust //terminal.py// to give readouts more often by changing ''time.sleep(60)'' to ''time.sleep(1)'' in the last line of //terminal.py// and RADIATOR_RESPONSE_TIME in main.c also to 1. Then open the valve with the former thermostat and watch when temperature starts to raise. This is the value which should be entered here. The developers radiator response can be seen in the picture. According to this, a value of 120 was choosen and found to be choosen well.
  
 ==== PREDICTION_STEEPNESS ==== ==== PREDICTION_STEEPNESS ====
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   * Replacing the ATtiny2313 with an ATtiny4313. Program memory is so constrained that this is considered to be a bug.   * Replacing the ATtiny2313 with an ATtiny4313. Program memory is so constrained that this is considered to be a bug.
   * C3, 1.0 uF, should have a 200\_mil wide footprint. Many suppliers don't have 100\_mil types at this capacity.   * C3, 1.0 uF, should have a 200\_mil wide footprint. Many suppliers don't have 100\_mil types at this capacity.
-  * Key //Menu// should go to INT1 to allow triggering an interrupt. Crucial for allowing the MCU to sleep.+  * Key //Menu// should go to INT1 to allow triggering an interrupt. Crucial for allowing the MCU to go to sleep.
   * These three thermistor connectors actually don't work this way. Connecting to means that current flows partially not to the measuring capacitor, but to the other ATtiny pin. Can likely solved with diodes, but note that a capacitor fills reasonably linear in the lower 20%, only.   * These three thermistor connectors actually don't work this way. Connecting to means that current flows partially not to the measuring capacitor, but to the other ATtiny pin. Can likely solved with diodes, but note that a capacitor fills reasonably linear in the lower 20%, only.
  
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